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Tuesday, January 15, 2008

Who knows Christianity best?


And it's proper role in a non-theocratic government?

Mike Huckabee:

...and that's what we need to do, to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards... (video)

Fred Thompson:

A woman asked him if he would “as a Christian, as a conservative” continue President Bush’s programs to combat global AIDS.

“Christ didn’t tell us to go to the government and pass a bill to get some of these social problems dealt with. He told us to do it,” Thompson said.

“The government has its role, but we need to keep firmly in mind the role of the government, and the role of us as individuals and as Christians on the other.”

He received a round of applause for his answer, and went on to expand on the role of government in fighting AIDS and other diseases.

“I’m not going to go around the state and the country with regards to a serious problem and say that I’m going to prioritize that,” he said.

“With people dying of cancer, and heart disease, and children dying of leukemia still, I got to tell you – we’ve got a lot of problems here, and we all may have our one that’s affected us the most, but it’s a broad array. And a president who will tell you the truth is that we have to look across the board and do what we can and what we should based upon the severity of the problem and the chances that our research money will do some good in these areas.”

(source, thanks to HotAir)

Jesus Christ

And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marveled at him. (Mark 12:17)

Mike Huckabee needs a refresher course in what the Bible actually says, along with our constitution and our founding fathers in regard to religion, as well as, why this country began in the first place. Hint - people were fleeing state imposed religion.

But then perhaps Mike Huckabee was just using rhetoric to gin up support from his evangelical base. If that's the case, it doesn't say anything good about his understanding as to how disturbing to many outside of Christianity and even within, will find his words. It also says nothing positive about how he views those who support him, that he would think they can be manipulated so easily by unrealistic, foolish and pandering sound bites.

I've stated before that calling Mike Huckabee a theocrat would be unfair. However, he very much gives people the ability to do that with his own words and actions. Now, not only have they long had the brush with which to paint theocrat with, Mike Huckabee has given them the bucket filled with paint by which to do so. He cannot win the general election when he is alienating so many in this country, including fellow Christians.

Perhaps many Huckabee supporters are holding tight to the passage that says "when two or more pray in agreement...", and that their prayers will also have God grant him wisdom. Sadly, Huckabee's words and actions throughout this campaign have shown that the later will not happen, even if the first does. Furthermore, we should not forget the pharaoh of Egypt, who God gave over to his own willful desire as judgement. Huckabee supporters may get what they want, but they may find  out that rather than be a blessing, God has simply turned them over to their own wills for judgement.

It isn't difficult to see how this would come about. With his own words, Mike Huckabee has again put his political ambitions above Christian influence of our culture and engagement in politics. Too many people already think that whenever a Christian enters politics, that a theocracy is the goal and it's just the next vote around the corner. I've long fought this, there is nothing wrong with people being motivated by their faith and being so motivated, does not mean what is being proposed is nothing but an imposition of religion. Some of my fellow Christians have made my stance difficult enough by refusing to learn how to express our values in secular terms, instead taking the easier route and speaking only to the choir, with Bible in hand. Then along comes Mike Huckabee, who for his own political desires, foolishly ensures that if he wins the nomination, he will seriously damage the ability of Christians to positively shape this country.

He claims to know the Bible, yet he risks diminishing what positive affect the faithful can have. Christians deserve a better leader and our country deserves a better President.

Previous posts:

Mike Huckabee - sincerity extraordinaire
Mike Huckabee, the results of service
A fool and his liar are soon parted?
Mike Huckabee - NH Fox News debate
Mike Huckabee - you have a shifty mentality
Mike Huckabee and foreign policy
Mike Huckabee thinks you're stupid
Mike Huckabee - illegal immigration flip flopper?
Huckabee - what kind of preacher is this?
Mike Huckabee - a twofer
Huckabee - Christian leader?
The taming of a shrewd
Evangelicals - short term thinkers?
It's a good thing I'm registered as an independent
Why I don't heart Huckabee

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